I knew I shouldn’t have started reading his books! See the AoM Archive AoM Message Board. Similarly, Asia refers, at the very least, to the eastern Mediterranean, perhaps all of the Middle East; but certainly not to the entire continent to the east that we are familiar with. [Crit.]. I’m with Koudriavtsev [visit www.imh.ru] in downplaying the importance of the word “island” in the dialogues. Plato writes in Timaeus that Atlantis was: “situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles” [69]. Rezensionen auf Deutsch übersetzen. That is to the say, the catastrophe that claimed Atlantis was also felt at the other end of the Mediterranean. Well, is it not the case that the Egyptians considered their ‘paradise’, or ‘primeval homeland’, where their civilizing heroes such as Thoth and Osiris originated, as being far away to the East, ‘in the sea of the Rising Sun’ [79]? At this stage, I’m not suggesting that it definitely was Sundaland, but hopefully I have illustrated how the data fits Southeast Asia very well. Let us assume Plato is talking about a “place”, a “land”, an “empire” – and see where this leads us. Archaeology and War God Synchronicity! It is reasonable to interpret 9000 years as “closer to 9000 than either 8000 or 10000”: anything from about 8500 to 9500 – a span of, perhaps, 1000 years. Members. Although the legend says there was sea-borne trade, we have no reason to believe these ancient ancestors had mastered sailing the open ocean, which was accomplished only in recent history. Wallis Budge reasoned that the Egyptian legend of the god Horus avenging his father Osiris, by defeating his ‘evil’ uncle Set could have been based on historical events, given that Horus was aided by followers rendered as ‘blacksmiths’: “It is, of course, impossible to say who were the blacksmiths that swept over Egypt from south to north, or where they come from, but the writer believes that they represent invaders in predynastic times, who made their way into Egypt from a country in the East, by way of the Red Sea…..They brought with them the knowledge of working in metals and of brickmaking, and having conquered the indigenous peoples in the south [ie. Moreover, we have to consider Plato’s own role, given that the era of 360BC was one of increasing Greek confidence. Much of this would have been relatively narrow strips of land parallel to modern coastlines, such as those off much of Africa, but in other places, such as the Persian Gulf and off the coast of NW India, significant areas were inundated. In this Antidote interview hosted by Michael Parker, award winning author Graham Hancock delves deep into the mysterious past of Earth’s ancient civilizations that have been come to pass, leaving only clues of their ways of life behind. - {This Is Conclusive Scientific Proof. Indonesia and its neighbours are not in front of either Hormuz or the Bab-el-Mandeb, are they? A further geographical feature is described, namely: “near the plain again, in the centre of the island….there was a mountain not very high on any side” [33]. And are not modern Indonesia and Malaysia two of the world’s largest producers of tin, as well as having significant copper reserves, along with several other metals? I first encountered Graham Hancock on JRE as well, at that time I was going a major research on UFOs and came by this podcast. [Crit.]. [Crit. As has been already said [in Timaeus], they held sway in our direction GRAHAM HANCOCK reviews The Atlantis Syndrome, by Paul Jordan, The Atlantis Secret, by Alan F. Alford and Before the Flood by Ian Wilson. the Atlantic Ocean. Graham Hancock the well-known investigator of prehistoric mysteries has never discussed the Atlantis enigma in depth.In fact, he once remarked on BBC Television that he avoids using the word ‘Atlantis’ in his books because “because most people when they hear the word Atlantis immediately think that they’re dealing with the lunatic fringe”. All these and their descendants for many generations were the inhabitants and rulers of diverse islands in the open sea; For years, I well knew that the Greek island Santorini was a caldera, the remains of the volcano Thera after it exploded three and a half thousand years ago; that it had been the hub of a bustling Mediterranean trade network; and that Thera has been identified with the legendary Atlantis by many researchers for many years. see what’s new at ufotv all access - commercial free with your support - now on all smart tvs, computers and personal devices - subscribe now - stream big! Both plains are oriented approximately east-west – that is, facing south – with the mountains to the north. …the island was larger than Libya and Asia put together… [Tim.] I wish not to be drawn on exactly what ‘orichalcum’ was. However, if Critias were talking about areas of land, it would make no sense to define it as a large, somewhat indeterminate area (Libya) plus a much smaller, better defined area (Asia). This early Portuguese map of the world shows what can only be a fair representation of Southeast Asia (and India) as it would have appeared during the Ice Age – namely a massive peninsula approximating to the Sunda Shelf. So the real meaning is probably nearer ‘beyond the Pillars of Heracles’ – i.e. For instance, there are 6,000 year-old statuettes found as far apart as Mesopotamia and New Guinea depicting rather Oriental looking ladies with slanting eyes, and a type of skin scarification (performed ritually) found today only in Oceania [41]. [Crit.]. Populations as far apart as Polynesia, Korea, Australia, India and the Middle East show both nuclear and mitochondrial DNA links with the population of Southeast Asia [43]. [Atlantis] was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent. This made the equation with Atlantis all the more compelling, so I decided I would like to read Plato’s dialogues for myself, to see how easily they could be interpreted as referring to Thera. And they’re out to end what they started 12,800 years ago, and didn’t finish 11,600 years ago. Whilst much of the territory would have been lost in the first of three ‘global superfloods’, 14,000 years ago, almost all the antediluvian continental shelf would have been inundated during the second flood roughly 11,000 years ago [14]. The mandala motif seems to be a hallmark of Indian and Southeast Asian temples built to Hindu or Buddhist specifications. 4,0 von 5 Sternen From Atlantis to the Sphinx. Furthermore, the destruction and disappearance of Atlantis did not mark the end of the war. The usual interpretation is that Atlantis was a genuine island of continental proportions. Graham Hancock the well-known investigator of prehistoric mysteries has never discussed the Atlantis enigma in depth.In fact, he once remarked on BBC Television that he avoids using the word ‘Atlantis’ in his books because “because most people when they hear the word Atlantis immediately think that they’re dealing with the lunatic fringe”. Graham Hancock's multi-million bestseller Fingerprints of the Gods remains an astonishing, deeply controversial, wide-ranging investigation of the mysteries of our past and the evidence for Earth's lost civilization. Liddell-Scott-Jones Lexicon of Classical Greek on-line. …Atlantis, which, as I was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia… [Crit.]. As I have already mentioned, “island” need not be taken too literally. Of course, there must have been some difference from the pattern today, due to slight cooling during the Ice Age, and the extra landmass that Sundaland presented to any weather system coming in off the ocean. And when he had called them together, he spake as follows…” [85]. Well, we know that the Greek philosopher, Plato, wrote the only known account referring directly to Atlantis. furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia. This paragraph does not help us to draw any further conclusions. Everything points to Atlantis being not far to the west of the straits, which means only the North Atlantic and the western European and African shores are still in the In this video, British author and philosopher, Graham Hancock asks the question, “Has our civilization, like lost Atlantis as described by Plato, forgotten how to wear its prosperity with moderation?” These are the closing 4 minutes from my Magicians of the Gods presentation in Toronto, December 2015 MoeMoe is the founder of GnosticWarrior.com. That is to say, one “end” of Atlantis reached southern Spain, all or most of the way to the straits. Nowhere else – continental Europe or Africa, the Americas, Asia, Australia, Antarctica – matches the description here. Atlantis Reborn Again. Or that Atlanteans colonised a variety of islands over a wide area, as well as their home territory, wherever that was. After all, they were not alone in the world, making up everything from scratch: Critias describes a world of city states and bustling international trade. In the first instance, I think it pertinent to remind readers of the passage in Graham Hancock’s best-selling Fingerprints of the Gods, where a research assistant of his resigns over not being able to find a suitable candidate location for a lost civilization, given certain criteria that such a civilization would have needed to be viable. An ancient extinction event that wiped out Atlantis more advanced societies 12,000 years ago is illuminated with author Graham Hancock. and, also, that the citadel in the capital city was coated in various kinds of metals: “The entire circuit of the wall, which went round the outermost zone, they covered with a coating of bronze, and the circuit of the next wall they coated with tin, and the third, which encompassed the citadel, flashed with the red light of orichalcum.” [54]. Therefore, if you’ll bear with me, I will skip this reference for now. That is, we can imagine the British Isles and northern France to fit this description. This is as much as I feel I need to discuss regarding the environment and climate. Click on "Watch later" to put videos here. and the war with Atlantis. Also, another big clue is given in the source of the Atlantis story – ancient Egypt itself. by Graham Hancock. The picture in the reports* … is, of course, a photoshopped artefact using the Giza pyramids and overlaid with an underwater scene. god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict I will proceed on the assumption that Plato believed he was relating a true account. The evidence available, sadly, doesn’t go as far back as the epoch of 11,500 years ago, but what is known is that there are definite signs of a cultural and genetic diffusion from Southeast Asia dating from at least 7,000 years ago, the epoch of the third global superflood [40]. They had their ‘oikumene’, or known world, encircled by what they thought was an all-encompassing ocean. I will tell you the reason of this: Solon, who was intending to use the tale for his poem, enquired into the meaning of the names, and found that the early Egyptians in writing them down had translated them into their own language, and he recovered the meaning of several names and when copying them out again translated them into our language.” [65]. This suggests some degree of settlement by peoples from Sundaland in the areas mentioned above. Although the latter site is not in Sundaland, it is not terribly far away, and we could speculate that it was descendants of refugees from the flooded Sunda Shelf who could have been responsible for these very early signs of irrigation in the Asia-Pacific region. That is to say, there is ample slack in the date to allow for significant progress and economic development of the Athenian state between foundation and going to war. Atlantis being “the way” or “on the way” to these other islands and the Americas suggests it could be skirted without much of a detour. However, there is one other thing, and that is I have to point out a weird inconsistency in Plato’s account that I feel needs to be put in context with respect to Atlantis’ location. Dr. Stephen Oppenheimer, in his Eden in the East, suggests that there are visible signs of settled agriculture in the Southeast Asian region at least as early as those in the Middle East. “the island itself provided most of what was required by them for the uses of life….also whatever fragrant things there are now in the earth, whether roots, or herbage, or woods, or essences which distil from fruit and flowers grew and thrived in that land” [23]. I haven't really specifically looked in depth at Hancock's supposed "evidence" for this, but based on what I have seen, With such blessings the earth freely furnished them; the European coast from the straits to Scandinavia, passing around the British Isles and the North Sea; or But, according to Hancock, the remains of Encke are aimed at us. On the other hand, being “the way” to the other side suggests you In this final part of the essay, we will see how Critias does indeed give an accurate description of a real location, that we can easily There are two other straits situated in the Middle East, both to the east of Egypt and Greece, both joining smaller seas with the main Ocean (Indian Ocean in this case). And intriguingly (very! I have found that, on the contrary, the account is unequivocal (based on Jowett’s translation at least): Critias (or Plato) says the kingdoms of Atlantis stretched from southern Spain, at the Pillars of Heracles, northwards along the Graham Hancock | 25th July 2020. by -GrahamHancock.com Editor Published 14th September 2011 | Articles. by Team Spirit. Or does Sundaland actually fit the bill?Take your pick! The scale and location of the empire are suggested here: Atlantis controlled be crossed to reach the other side of the ocean, as might have been the case with an island formed by the uplifted mid-Atlantic Ridge. The Sunda Shelf off modern Indonesia, Malaysia and Indo-China, which at LGM (last glacial maximum, about 16,000 years ago) would have been a gigantic plain, ‘Sundaland’ (not to be confused with the English town on the river Wear! The region that Egypt and Greece occupy together – which is effectively a cul-de-sac, naturally delimited by a single point – is the Mediterranean. If the enormous areas between South America or Antarctica and the Mediterranean were the provinces of Atlantis, surely they would merit a grander description than “several other islands and parts of the continent”. had to pass Atlantis, which would be the case if Atlantis were Critias was clearly talking in approximations and “larger than Libya” would have been sufficient. other, no less important cultures. Jowett’s commentary shows he is thoroughly sceptical about Atlantis and this view may well have coloured his translation – which suits me fine because the conclusions will be more valuable than those drawn from a “favourable” translation. [Tim.]. In the next place, they had fountains, one of cold and another of hot water, in gracious plenty flowing; and they were wonderfully adapted for use by reason of the pleasantness and excellence of their waters. If a tropical latitude was implied by Plato, this could explain his choice of words, because the sun would be very much higher in the sky at midday than in the temperate region of the Mediterranean. The edge of the Atlantean kingdom must have been very close to Gades and the pillars: therefore, almost certainly on the continent. It is worth noting that, contrary to popular belief, Atlantis was not destroyed by the gods because the people had become debased. Sure there was! “Asia”, meaning Asia Minor, is usually equated with modern Turkey. Quite a paradise it seems, doesn’t it?! April 2021 AOM: The Lost Pillars of Enoch by Tobias Churton 7th April 2021. Even if the island is at it widest at the appropriate latitude, the point opposite the straits could hardly be called “the extremity of the island”. One of the key features in the priest’s description of Atlantis was its size, being some sort of landmass (whether ‘island’ or ‘continent’) ‘bigger than Libya and Asia combined’, that was lost ‘in a single day and night of misfortune’. “They have fought fights, they have upheld strifes, they have done evil, they have created hostilities, they have made slaughter, they have caused trouble and oppression…. Perhaps the ice cap itself bridged the land and allowed a continuous passage across the North Atlantic. Atlantis Reborn Again BBC2 9.00pm Thursday 14th December 2000. Ten years ago Hancock … ), Let me begin by observing first of all, that nine thousand was the sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have taken place between those who dwelt If we assume 600 feet or 185 metres, we won’t be far wrong. However, the Celtic Shelf also fits the 3:2 proportions; whereas the African candidate is narrower, more like 3:1, or less than a thousand stadia across. International bestselling author, Graham Hancock, joins THC to talk about his latest book that’s breaking down the walls of conventional history: Magicians of the Gods. ), in an almost Plato-esque fashion, that it consisted of: “rectangular in shape, and that it was intersected by canals supplied from the stream by which the whole region was enclosed” [83]. Critias tells how the story came to be passed down to him and why the illustrious Solon himself did not have the opportunity to publicise what he had learned form the Egyptians. UFOS gibt es gar nicht, die Bundeslade steht in Äthiopien, die alten Hopis schworen schon der Atomernergie ab - und wenn wir nicht schleungigst unser Leben ändern, kippt uns der Karren Erde noch zu Lebzeiten Graham Hancocks unterm Hintern weg. I am not aware of any suggested mechanism for the Ridge to well up and become habitable. some considerable distance away from the Strait, and not right next door to it. Certain parts of the dialogues do look contrived, but, since no doubt Plato drew together ideas from various sources and connected them with his own narrative, we should be allowed to ignore the suspect parts without devaluing the rest. But we already knew that. Post navigation The Celtic Shelf does indeed represent about one tenth or more of the former coastal area between the straits and Scandinavia; and, being bathed in the Gulf Stream, it would have enjoyed favourable conditions, uncharacteristic of other regions at the same latitude, as Britain and Ireland do today. Verifizierter Kauf. Further, these Magicians, these Seven Sages who Hancock says were imbued “with mysterious ‘powers’” (so mysterious that we are never told what these powers are)—set about “wandering.” [Crit.]. 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